Suisei no Gargantia Ep 10: At Loss

Eva

My name is Eva, I've been watching Anime since 2003, and I became a fan later in 2005. I am a passionate writer, so it's a wonderful experience and incredibly thrilling to blog reviews/critics and just express myself about the series.

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  1. Wanderer_YS says:

    Due to webpage failure my 3 paragraph response got deleted with 0 backup.

    To keep things short…

    1. The “I am not afraid of” statement, let’s add some addition to that, like…..Ledo himself?
    2. Ledo’s character growth is quite distinct, from ep 2 where he can kill pirates without second thinking to now, feeling agony over killing the whalesquids.
    3. Interesting intro flashback that seems to be almost 100% unique from previous episode (as in, not pieced together from last episode).
    4. Chamber’s system probably got pre-programmed with “Hideauze must be killed”, since computer systems (in reality) can’t think or handle information by itself without pre-programmed equations or handlers.

  2. Misena says:

    Ledo: “Mankind’s fighting against itself.”
    Misena: “Oh! Yeah. What’s new?” “Turn on CNN, would ya.”

    I didn’t get this episode. People have been killing each other from the beginning of time; even right now as I write this, Someone is probably pointing a gun, or some other weapon, at someone else.This anime has been trying to address issues around morality since episode one. I think, it has only gotten so far as to say: unanimous killing is not a bad thing.

    “Chamber showed us that human feelings and remorse is not something he can understand. His response are based on the knowledge he possesses.” I thought emotions were also based on that? Lets bring in animal abuse and consumption into question. Since the anime did slightly touch on that. Ever tried eating dogs? Those of us from North America know not to. Dogs are cute, they are running buddies, you can cuddle them and even play with them. What about cows? Those burger patties come from somewhere. I pretty sure certain cultures have gods, materialized in the form of cows and bulls. I’m also pretty sure they don’t consume them readily en masse. Why? Because of how they are viewed. Knowledge backed and solidified by emotions.They are sacred, to be valued and revered.

    I completely agree with Chamber, when it said something along the lines of: Discovery of the Hideauze origin shouldn’t change Ledo’s objective, to annihilate them.

    That said. Pinion, is now officially consumed with revenge and power. What happen to not killing everyone? Are the developers regressing his character development? Or do the people in that Earth find it thrilling not meeting their own views. If the developers when to such lengths in time spent on Pinion’s vengeance. I’d be disappointed to have it all undone in two more episodes.

    Oh! And for your reading pleasure. Here is the link to a List of wars and anthoropogenic disasters by death toll. Death count in WW I equals population of my country. Doesn’t that say enough?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_anthropogenic_disasters_by_death_toll

    “….after all this series has continued to surprise us with the lack of deaths.” They do die: Just not the ones we care much for. Those pirates, on two separate occasions. The Hideauze?

    1. The “I am not afraid of” statement, let’s add some addition to that, like…..Ledo himself?

    Poor confused thing. I think Ledo was asked the wrong question. “What are you afraid of?” as opposed to What in heaven am I doing and why am I. Both questions Chamber addressed in his long philosophical analysis. Which can be largely surmarized as; They chose to become different from us. Let us annihilate them, because if will don’t they will us.

    2. Ledo’s character growth is quite distinct, from ep 2 where he can kill pirates without second thinking to now, feeling agony over killing the whalesquids.

    I see what you are saying. Though he is still stuck in the murk.

    3. Interesting intro flashback that seems to be almost 100% unique from previous episode (as in, not pieced together from last episode).

    Oh! Yes. I want to see what will happen with that cult. Why did they fish up the dead Hideauze from they water. Do they worship them? Ugh!

    4. Chamber’s system probably got pre-programmed with “Hideauze must be killed”, since computer systems (in reality) can’t think or handle information by itself without pre-programmed equations or handlers.

    Wouldn’t it be a fail war machine if it wasn’t programed in such a way?

    • Eva says:

      Mind you I mentioned “feeling”. Lets use “Love” as an example. I have never been in love, but I know and heard from my knowledge of what it’s supposed to FEEL like. But that’s not the same thing as actually experiencing it first hand yourself. Chamber as a machine isn’t able to FEEL and he has shown no signs of ‘feelings’ either hence ‘no remorse’ and unable to connect with Ledo’s grief and turmoil. Being knowledgeable about emotions is one thing, feeling/experiencing is another.

  3. Wanderer_YS says:

    “Ledo: “Mankind’s fighting against itself.”
    Misena: “Oh! Yeah. What’s new?” “Turn on CNN, would ya.””

    Yes, but keep in mind the background of the character. Think about it, Ledo spent all his life fighting ‘aliens’, and then back on earth is told that killing people is bad (ie. pirates), and then suddenly in the middle of alien version earth cleanup he realized that the ‘aliens’ are actually humans, especially when these ‘aliens version earth’ did not really do anything hostile towards him. This isn’t 2013.

    “Wouldn’t it be a fail war machine if it wasn’t programed in such a way?”

    Yes, but this statement is mainly pointing out that Chamber’s statement that his conclusion of Hideauze being harmful is based on analysis is more or less a lie (in programming terms), because it’s programmed in such a way to come up with the said conclusion, because it is a war machine.